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Obama - Pakistan - past and future

     We all have it, our little voice, gut feeling, primal survival instinct, a mother’s swift hand back side of the head (Gibbs’ maneuver). It’s that one moment that something is telling us that something is just not quite right. I’ve been having this with Barack Obama and his connections with Pakistan for well over a year now. 

     There just seems to be ‘something’ between Barack Obama and Pakistan, but what, let’s explore:

     Going back in history, it’s easy to see that there is just something going on with Barack Obama and Pakistan. He has more of fixation about Pakistan than he does and/or shows any real concern for the United States as a Nation and it’s problems. For a quick review, let’s look at some history about Barack Obama and Pakistan.

August 07, 2007 10:03 PM    Sparks Fly Over Obama's Pakistan Speech

ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: For the second presidential debate in a row, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., came under fire for an Aug. 1 speech in which he said he would go after high-value Al Qaeda targets in Pakistan if the country's president was not willing to act.

"I find it amusing," said Obama, "that those who helped to authorize and engineer the biggest foreign policy disaster in our generation are now criticizing me for making sure that we are on the right battlefield and not the wrong battlefield in the war against terrorism."

Obama's College Trip to Pakistan

April 08, 2008 8:27 AM

"You do that in eighty countries," Obama said, "You don't know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."

Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visi

t, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

Updated 8/3/2007 10:15 AM

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistan on Friday criticized U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama for saying that, if elected, he might order unilateral military strikes inside this Islamic nation to root out terrorists.

Updated 8/3/2007 10:05 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday that he would possibly send troops into Pakistan to hunt down terrorists, an attempt to show strength when his chief rival has described his foreign policy skills as naive.

Obama said that as commander in chief he would remove troops from Iraq and putting them "on the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan." He said he would send at least two more brigades to Afghanistan and increase non-military aid to the country by $1 billion.

(sidebar from same article above): Obama said he would be willing to meet leaders of rogue states like Cuba, North Korea and Iran without conditions, an idea that Clinton criticized as irresponsible and naive. Obama responded by using the same words to describe Clinton's vote to authorize the Iraq war and called her "Bush-Cheney lite."

    Next, we see a considerable influence of Barack Obama’s life from Pakistani ‘friends and/or room mates he had in his influential days of his young adulthood. Argue with yourself dear reader of the influences you have upon your own life from people you met while you were in your late teens, early twenties.  

* Imad Husain a Pakistani and Obama's freshman roommate at Occidental. Husain is now a Boston banker.

* Mohammed Hasan Chandoo a wealthy Pakistani freind of Obama when he was a freshmam. He is a now a self-employed financial consultant living in Armonk, New York.

* Wahid Hamid a wealthy Pakistani freind of Obama when he was a freshmam. Hamid and Obama traveled to Karachi, Pakistan after graduation from Occidental and stayed with the family of Mohammed Hasan Chandoo. Hamid is now a vice president at Pepsico in New York City.

* Sohale Siddiqi is identified as "Sadik" in Obama's memoir, Dreams From My Father, and is described as "a short, well-built Pakistani" who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party. Siddiqi was from Karachi, Pakistan, and Obama's roommate when he attended Columbia University. Siddiqi was not a student at Columbia and became an illegal having over stay his tourist visa. [2] Obama knew Saddiqi when he visited Chandoo and Hamid at Occidental. Siddiqi claims Obama stopped using drugs when he arrived at Columbia. Siddiqi is a recovering drug addict and now lives in Seattle working for a community theater.

Here’s an interesting article from Atlas Shrugs discussing Obama’s connections to Pakistan.

Obama's Paki Connection

UPDATE: From Slim guy:  Who was Senator Obama’s host in Pakistan? The Friday Times broke this story in early March and revealed the host to be none other than Mian Muhammadian Soomro, the caretaker prime minister.

Obama's background just gets curiouser and curiouser. I am still stumped as to how Dr. Al-Mansour came to mentor Barack Hussein Obama before he attended Harvard. How did Obama come to know Dr. Khalid al Mansour, Senior Advisor, HRH Prince Al-Waleed Bin Talal,  and where did Obama get the money for his long strange trip? For a "poor, starving, student" Obama sure had/has a collection of  rich, wealthy and politically connected muslims all over the world. 

How is it that Obama had these dark powerful connections in his youth while, at the same time, his brother George subsists on a dollar a month?

There is much we do not know about this man. Even his alleged stint at Columbia is being called into question.  "The Columbia years are a hole in the sprawling Obama hagiography. In his two published memoirs, the 47-year-old Democratic nominee barely mentions his experience there. He refuses to answer questions about Columbia and New York -- which, in this media age, serves only to raise more of them. Why not release his Columbia transcript? Why has his senior essay gone missing?"

Now check out this disturbing development out. If there are any readers out there that can  further the story or have any additional clues,  I would greatly appreciate it. Who are these folks and what are their objectives?

Obama’s larkana Connection Pakistan Times hat tip rut

United State’s Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has a connection with Larkana, city of Bhuttos of Pakistan. In 1981 Obama as a student visited Larkana for a partridge hunting session. His host was one Hasan Chandio. City of Larkana was renamed. Its original name before the raj was Chandka. Chandios are still considered be the biggest landlords of Sindh.

During his visit to Pakistan he stayed in Muhammad Hasan Chandio’s residence and later he traveled to interior Sindh for partridge hunting. In Sindh partridge hunting is considered as a symbol of good hospitality.

Hasan Chandio is Obama’s Pakistani friendU who lives in Westchester County of New York. Obama also made friends with another Sindhi currently Chairman of Senate Muhammadmian Soomro who hails from Shikarpur hardly one hour’s drive from Larkana. He lived at Muhammad Ali Society residence of Ahmad Mian Soomro father of Chairman Senate Muhammadmian Soomro.

While tracing this story this scribe found from Time Magazine that Obama’s mother was a regular visitor of Pakistan and she had little knowledge of Urdu. Officially Barack Obama has so far not made his Pakistani connections public but he was quoted by Soomro that in Pakistan he came to know about Sunni and Shia sects.

His mother lived in 13 countries (according to an interview with half sister Maya).
WTF was she doing in Pakistan?

UPDATE: Slim guy found interesting linkage of three friends of Obama at Columbia who are now all listed as bundlers for his campaign and raised lots of money for him. Mohammed Hasan Chandoo Associated with a trading company from Armonk , NY Wahid Hamid a higher up at Pepsico in NY Both rich families from Pakistan Vinai Thummalapally Owns a DVD/CD company in Colorado Springs, Co From the town in India Obama visited on the same trip

UPDATE: More on Obama's mama in Pakistan: (hat tip Jim)

Here is why I think this is so: first, the type of work she is reported to have been doing for the ADB would usually require occasional and repeated visits but not permanent placement; second,  if it did, it is unlikely that she would have stayed in a 5-star hotel the entire time as the report alleges. Here is the Daily Waqt report in question:

UPDATE: Further from Slim guy (from liberal lies):

This last part -- a college trip to Pakistan -- was news to many of us who have been following the race closely. And it was odd that we hadn't heard about it before, given all the talk of Pakistan during this campaign. So I asked the Obama campaign for more information. Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there.

The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India. NOW, It all sounds very innocent, ‘a college trip to Pakistan‘. Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik). Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business. There would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981: To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every ‘True Believer‘. For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa. In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace. Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981.”

     Now, let’s fast forward to today, May 9, 2010 and the headlines that having been breaking today concerning Pakistan and the Obama Administration:

Holder: Pakistani Taliban Behind Times Square Attack

May 09, 2010 8:23 AM

In his first Sunday morning interview, Attorney General Eric Holder revealed that the Pakistani Taliban was behind Faisal Shahzad’s attempted bombing of Times Square last week.

“We’ve now developed evidence that shows that the Pakistani Taliban was behind the attack,” Holder said on “This Week.”

“We know that they helped facilitate it. We know that they probably helped finance it. And that he was working at their direction.”

U.S. Urges Action in Pakistan After Failed Bombing

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The Obama administration has delivered new and stiff warnings to Pakistan after the failed Times Square car bombing that it must urgently move against the nexus of Islamic militancy in the country’s lawless tribal regions, American and Pakistani officials said.

White House says Pakistan Taliban behind NY bomb

WASHINGTON – Saying they obtained new evidence, senior White House officials said Sunday that the Pakistani Taliban were behind the failed Times Square bombing.

The attempt marks the first time the group has been able to launch an attack on U.S. soil. And while U.S. officials have downplayed the threat — citing the bomb's lack of sophistication — the incident in Times Square and Christmas Day airline bomber indicate growing strength by overseas terrorist groups linked to al-Qaida even as the CIA says their operations are seriously degraded.

    There’s quite a bit of history to digest and one can not easily just dismiss that there is a connection between Obama and Pakistan. No other Nation has consumed Barack Obama’s personal attention over his lifetime than Pakistan, even the United States itself, does not devote much of his time and energy into. 

     So what do we make of this dear reader?   Let’s go down conspiracy road for a moment.   Obama’s adult youth years were as he has stated “In "Dreams from My Father" Obama details how white settlers and sugar companies came to dominate and
exploit his native Hawaii. In that memoir, Obama said that at Occidental, "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets."

    His trips to Pakistan, his Pakistani associates, his pseudo-Christian acting and failure to identify a Christian Church to attend.   I’m not saying he’s a Muslim, but he is a leftist socialist radical for sure. He does have a personal agenda when it comes to Pakistan, and with today’s headlines, I warn you, especially those who question the Iraq War …. Look at today’s headlines, listen to the words coming from the Obama Administration in referencing how to deal with the alleged Pakistani connection. The eerie similarities are striking!!

    What ‘group’ would benefit from a full U.S. Military intervention into Pakistan?   That is the key question and source behind Obama’s personal attention to Pakistan. Find that group, and you’ll find the answers and the link between Obama and Pakistan. 

    A note of historical reference, on Fox News today, Democrat and Republican Congressmen were being interviewed over this recent Pakistani connection. The Bush Administration had it totally correct when it was called a ‘Global War on Terror’ since now the Obama Administration says we have World wide threats to our security due to extremist.   They (extremist) are terrorist, most are ‘Muslim’ by self religious identity, and they do not commit ‘man made disasters’ and we are not involved in ‘overseas contingency operations’.   Those phrases are words of fools.

    Why…why is Secretary of Homeland Security…Janet Napolitano flying around the South being involved with ….oil spills and river flooding???!!!   What in heck…do either of those have to do with National Security???!!   Those are jobs of the Departments of the Interior, Commerce, Energy, Agriculture…..not “Homeland Security’!!!!!   Having Sec Napolitano out there proves many things, one: she has no real influence and effectiveness in the duties of as the Sec of HLS. Two: The Obama White House wants to keep her busy doing such mundane task such as involving her in oil spills and floods and not providing ‘security’ to the homeland of the United States. 

    If your little voice, gut reaction, isn’t screaming at you by now:

 Here’s another interesting article of late that shows influence in Barack Obama’s early adulthood years which influence him today via all of his decisions, actions, and inactions.

08 Feb 2010
By: Ronald Kessler

As a college student, Barack Obama expressed Marxist views, including
the need for a new socialist U.S. government, according to a student
who says he shared the future president's opinion at the time.

Such views by a college student may not be surprising. And like most
students who hold radical views, Obama's positions, at least
publicly, have evolved substantially.

However, this new window on Obama's youth and early political
thinking demonstrates how little is known about the background of
America's 44th president.

Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel,
Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore
at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from
Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.

Drew's then girlfriend, Caroline Boss ­ now Grauman-Boss ­ knew Obama
because she shared classes with him at Occidental.

During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss' home in
Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his
roommate from Pakistan.

"Barack and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went
to a restaurant together," Drew says. "We had a nice meal, and then
we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics."

For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.

"He was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle
point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of
the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the
capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would
redistribute the wealth," says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

"The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,"
Drew says. "That this was the secret of their wealth, that they
weren't paying others enough for their work, and they were using and
taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution
would take place, and it would be a good thing."

Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as "part of an
intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this
revolution and towards this new society."

In contrast, "My more pessimistic Marxist perspective indicated this
was not a realistic possibility, that we really hadn't seen a sort of
complete revolution take place anywhere in Western Europe, and that
this isn't what had happened in more socialistic Germany or in
France," Drew says. "He was pretty persistent, that I didn't know
what I was talking about."

Drew's viewpoint that a revolution was unrealistic "made me very
unpopular that evening. It was considered a reactionary and
insensitive thing to argue," says Drew.

Drew saw Obama again at a party Obama and Chandoo gave in June 1981
at the house they shared. Drew went on to become an assistant
professor of political science at Williams College.

In 1981, Obama left Occidental to attend Columbia University. During
that year, Obama spent "about three weeks" visiting Chandoo and his
family in Karachi, Pakistan, according to the account of Obama
spokesman Bill Burton during the campaign.

Chandoo is now a financial consultant who was formerly a broker at
Oppenheimer & Co. He has contributed to Obama's campaign and helped
raise more than $100,000 for him as a bundler.

"If that's what John Drew said, that's what he said," Chandoo
commented. "I can't remember Obama ever talking like that. It sounds
a bit absurd to me, but that's my opinion. I can't remember him ever
expressing an interest in being a Marxist."

Much of what is known about Obama's past has been revealed and
defined by Obama himself, largely through his two bestselling books
"Dreams from My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope."

In these works and throughout his career, Obama has clearly
identified with the oppressed. In "Dreams from My Father" Obama
details how white settlers and sugar companies came to dominate and
exploit his native Hawaii.

In that memoir, Obama said that at Occidental, "To avoid being
mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more
politically active black students. The foreign students. The
Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and
punk-rock performance poets."

As president, Obama has espoused the view that the rich are not
sharing their wealth with the less fortunate. In a Sept. 6, 2001,
radio interview, Obama expressed regret that the Supreme Court hadn't
engaged in wealth redistribution.

In some ways, Obama's opinions about American-style capitalism seem
to mirror the views of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Obama's minister
who was his self-described mentor and "sounding board" for 20 years.
Wright's "Black Value System" denounced "our racist competitive
society" and included the disavowal of the pursuit of "middle-classness."

The Black Value System defined "middle-classness" as a way American
society seduced blacks into achieving economic success, thus snaring
them rather than "killing them off directly."

In a similar vein, when he discussed politics with him in 1980, Drew
says that in Obama's view, "America was definitely the enemy, and
American elites were the enemy, and whatever America was doing was
definitely wrong and bad. He thought that perhaps the Soviet Union
was misunderstood, and it was doing a better job for its people than
most people realized."

Chandoo said he doesn't know which professors Obama was referring to
in his book. Asked when he last saw Obama, Chandoo said he has not
seen nor talked with him since before Obama became a U.S. senator.
However, under "community member," the White House listed Chandoo as
a guest at Obama's Ramadan dinner last fall.

When asked about that, Chandoo acknowledged from his home in Armonk,
N.Y., that he attended the dinner. Despite the fact that fewer than
70 people were in attendance, Chandoo added, "I did not get a chance
to see the boss." He then said he shook hands with Obama in a receiving line.

Chandoo said he has been in touch with Caroline Grauman-Boss over the
years. She did not respond to a request for comment.

Burton, now deputy White House press secretary, also did not respond
to a request for comment.

Drew's encounter with Obama's early political thinking adds to the
mystery that has shrouded his past.

For more than a year during the campaign, the media were aware of
Obama's ties with the Rev. Wright, for example, but the press did not
reveal them until Obama was far ahead in the primaries.

Obama has contributed to the lack of knowledge about his past by
refusing to release early documentation about his life, including his
college and Harvard Law School transcripts and his senior thesis at Columbia.

Referring to Obama's quote from "Dreams from My Father" that he
associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, "What he's not saying
is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist
professors. When you understand that, Obama's later associations and
policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev.
Wright's ideology."

In 1983 and 1984, Drew says he came to realize that his own Marxist
views were rubbish. He now considers himself a conservative.

In contrast, Drew says, Obama has never revealed how his political
thinking evolved and "what were the logical steps he took to get out
of his Marxist world view."

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Face-to-Face with Young Marxist Obama:
Remembering My Days as an Anti-Apartheid Student Activist

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