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Chavez and no surprise

    For anyone who studies history, what is taking place in South America should not be a surprise.  I've taken some postings out of my Military.com forum and am reposting them here.  There is also some items I added at the top today: 
 
 
 

Hugo Chavez talks of peace:

Friday, March 7, 2008 10:30 AM

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez called Friday for a cooling of tensions with Colombia and predicted that a summit of Latin American presidents in this seaside capital "is going to be positive."

Adolph Hitler talks of peace: Thus one of Europe's most serious crises will be ended, and all of us, not only in Germany but those far beyond our frontiers, will then in this year for the first time really rejoice at the Christmas festival. It should for us all be a true Festival of Peace.

speech in Berlin, 5 October 1938

Posted Wed 09 January 2008 01:48 PM 

Venezuela - 2008 - summer. Since the collaspe of his major socialist reform movement, Hugo Chavez embarks upon a 'new revolution' movement. With the aid of Iranian QUD's special forces, Venezuelan forces cross into Columbia with an alliance with FARC.

Bogata awakens to thunderous explosions as the police stations and military barracks are blown up by sappers. Radio and TV stations are seized by FARC militia, the Presidental Palace and Congress buildings are seized. Columbian military generals are shot or captured at their homes in a mass coordinated assualt.

By noon, messages are being aired that the New Revolutionary Government of Columbia has freed Columbia from the American puppet government. Hugo Chavez flies to Columbia to announce the beginning of the new Socialist States of South America(Estados socialistas de Suramérica- ESSA). Ecuador joins publicly by annoucement an hour later.

Within days, dozens of Columbian politicans, police and military officers, judges are shot by firing squads of FARC. Iran establishes a military base at Turbo, Columbia.

Panamanian Government officials appeal to the People's Republic of China to help protect the Panamanian Canal which they control. PLAAN vessels sail from China to Panama to counter the Iranian military presence.

Remnents of Columbian military not seized by FARC still controls the area around Mitu, along with thousands of Columbian refugees. Venezuela and Ecuadorian troops begin moving forces in their direction. Brazil moves several battalions to the border with Columbia in response and request by the Columbian Military, then cross into Columbia to assist Columbia and stop Chavez's ultimate goal of controlling all of South America.

Three day battle ensue's with devestating loses to Chavez's/FARC forces. Bogata is retaken by Columbian military. Iranian military personnel slip away at night and return to their large base inside Venezuela.

China announces it's Naval vessels will remain to protect the canal from any future threats.

Ecadorian military and civilians stage a revolt against the pro-Chavez governement and seize power. Brazilian Air Forces make day light bombing runs on Venezuela military bases and the Iranian base southwest of Caracus.

Following three days of total chaos in Venezuela, former military officers purged by Chavez and anti-Chavez civilians revolt and supported by Brazil and other South American countries. Chavez flees to Cuba as his government crumbles. Enroute to Cuba, Chavez's air plane crashes mysteriously into the Caribbean Sea.

Democracy is celebrated across South America, Brazil is hailed as hero to freedom.

FARC inside of Columbia is reduced to common banditry as the people turn members over to the new government as retaliation to the mass murders of Columbia's government.

Posted Fri 25 January 2008 07:01 PM Hide Post

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Originally posted by bjpeters:

Venezuela - 2008 - summer. Since the collaspe of his major socialist reform movement, Hugo Chavez embarks upon a 'new revolution' movement. With the aid of Iranian QUD's special forces, Venezuelan forces cross into Columbia with an alliance with FARC........

From a news flash story this evening:

Chavez: Colombia plans 'aggression' By JORGE RUEDA, Associated Press Writer

31 minutes ago

President Hugo Chavez on Friday accused neighboring Colombia and the United States of plotting a military "aggression" against Venezuela.

"I accuse the government of Colombia of devising a conspiracy, acting as a pawn of the U.S. empire, of devising a military provocation against Venezuela," Chavez said.

"A military aggression is being prepared," Chavez added, saying that Washington aims to "oblige us to respond, and later a war could be set off."

He cited intelligence reports but did not offer evidence to support his claim.

Venezuela and Colombia have been locked in a diplomatic crisis since November, when Colombian President Alvaro Uribe ended Chavez's mediation role with Colombia's leftist rebels in seeking a hostages-for-prisoners swap.

Chavez warned Colombia not to attempt a "provocation," warning that it would trigger a decision by Venezuela to cut off all oil exports.

"In that scenario, write it down: the price of oil would reach $300, because there wouldn't be oil for anyone," Chavez said. "The invaders would have to step over our dead bodies."

Chavez has repeatedly accused Washington of plotting to oust or kill him, though it was the first time he has accused Colombia's U.S.-allied government in such strident terms.

He spoke as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was in Colombia, saying she and two other senior American officials who have visited Bogota recently "came to attack Venezuela" in their remarks. Rice did not mention Chavez during her earlier public statements in Colombia.

Cesar Mauricio Velasquez, spokesman for Uribe, said his government had no immediate comment.

The trouble between the two countries began in November, when Uribe accused Chavez of overstepping his authority by directly contacting Colombia's army chief while trying to broker the prisoner swap.

Chavez responded by freezing contacts with Uribe and calling home the Venezuelan ambassador in Bogota for consultations. That ambassador has yet to return.

Chavez has continued his contacts with the rebels, though, and earlier this month the largest guerrilla group freed two Colombian women held captive for years to Venezuelan officials.

The Colombian government later reacted with outrage when Chavez urged world leaders to stop classifying the rebels as terrorists.

Chavez said he expects relations with Colombia, which he and Uribe once managed to maintain cordial, "are going to continue deteriorating," predicting that it will hurt cross-border trade.

The tensions have been heightened by Colombian allegations that Chavez's government provides refuge to leftist rebels — which Chavez denies.

Chavez urged Uribe "to tie up his madmen, because he has some madmen loose (in his administration) and he's the one who is responsible."

Chavez said the United States and the Colombian government "don't want peace in Colombia because it's the perfect excuse to have thousands of soldiers there, the CIA, military bases, spy planes and who knows what other trash operations against Venezuela."

The Venezuelan leader, a close ally of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, said President Bush and his allies "think we are against the ropes, that we're weakened right now. Well, be careful."

It's scary when a scenerio is starting to become a reality.

Posted Mon 03 March 2008 10:45 AM Hide Post

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Originally posted by bjpeters:

Venezuela - 2008 - summer. Since the collaspe of his major socialist reform movement, Hugo Chavez embarks upon a 'new revolution' movement. With the aid of Iranian QUD's special forces, Venezuelan forces cross into Columbia with an alliance with FARC.

Bogata awakens to thunderous explosions as the police stations and military barracks are blown up by sappers. Radio and TV stations are seized by FARC militia, the Presidental Palace and Congress buildings are seized. Columbian military generals are shot or captured at their homes in a mass coordinated assualt.

By noon, messages are being aired that the New Revolutionary Government of Columbia has freed Columbia from the American puppet government. Hugo Chavez flies to Columbia to announce the beginning of the new Socialist States of South America(Estados socialistas de Suramérica- ESSA). Ecuador joins publicly by annoucement an hour later...............

I'm no Nostrodamus by far, but this is a bit scary.

Ecuador Follows Chavez in Deploying Troops to Colombia Border

Monday , March 03, 2008

CARACAS, Venezuela —

President Hugo Chavez ordered tanks and thousands of troops on Sunday to the border with Colombia, accusing it of pushing South America to the brink of war by killing a top rebel leader on Ecuadorean soil.

Denouncing Colombia's slaying of the rebel commander in a cross-border raid into Ecuador, Chavez said Venezuela will respond militarily if Colombia violates its border. He ordered Venezuela's embassy in Bogota closed.

Ecuador's president, Rafael Correa, also ordered troops to the Colombian border, withdrew his government's ambassador from Bogota and ordered Colombia's top diplomat expelled.

"There is no justification," Correa said Sunday night, snubbing an earlier announcement from Colombia that it would apologize for the incursion by its military.

Chavez called the killing of rebel leader and spokesman Raul Reyes and 16 other rebels on Saturday an attack by a "terrorist state."

"Mr. Defense Minister, move 10 battalions to the border with Colombia for me, immediately — tank battalions. Deploy the air force," Chavez said during his weekly TV and radio program. "We don't want war, but we aren't going to permit the U.S. empire, which is the master (of Colombia) ... to come divide us."

Correa said Colombia deliberately carried out the strike beyond its borders. He said the rebels were "bombed and massacred as they slept, using precision technology."

The Ecuadorean leader said Colombia violated Ecuador's airspace when it bombed the rebel camp, which the Colombian military said was located 1.1 miles from the border.

Colombian officials have long complained that Ecuador's military does not control its sparsely populated border, allowing rebels to take refuge.

The same holds true for Venezuela, where rebel deserters say the guerrillas routinely rest, train, obtain medical care and smuggle drugs. Chavez denies that his country provides refuge to the FARC.

In a statement, Colombia said FARC "terrorists" including Reyes "have had the custom of killing in Colombia and taking refuge in the territory of neighboring countries."

Colombia's police commander Gen. Oscar Naranjo said documents from a computer seized where Reyes was killed suggested Ecuador's president is deepening relations with the FARC.

The two documents, copies of which were obtained independently by The Associated Press, were apparently written by Reyes in the past two months and addressed to the high command of the FARC. An Ecuadorean government spokesman called the Colombian claims a lie.

Ecuadorean soldiers recovered the semi-nude bodies of 15 rebels in their jungle camp, the corpses scattered around the site along with pieces of clothing, shoes, a refrigerator, guns and grenades.

Soldiers stood guard at the camp, saying they also found three wounded women, who were evacuated by helicopter to be treated. One was a Mexican philosophy student injured by shrapnel, while the other two were Colombians, said Ecuador's defense minister, Welington Sandoval.

Ecuadorean officials found that there were two bomb attacks on the camp early Saturday, Lt. Col. Jose Nunez told reporters in the remote village of Angostura, where the bodies were found.

Colombian commandos removed the cadavers of Reyes and one other rebel.

Chavez called the raid "cowardly murder, all of it coldly calculated."

"This could be the start of a war in South America," Chavez said. He warned Uribe: "If it occurs to you to do this in Venezuela, President Uribe, I'll send some Sukhois" — Russian warplanes recently bought by Venezuela.

The situation tested already tense relations between Venezuela and Colombia, though cross-border trade has not yet been seriously affected.

Chavez did not specify how many troops was sending to the border. A Venezuelan battalion traditionally has roughly 600 soldiers.

"Undoubtedly the recent actions on the part of Colombia and Venezuela's response raise the risk for armed conflict," said Miguel Tinker Salas, a Latin American studies professor at Pomona College in Claremont, California. "Although it is unlikely we will see military confrontations, what is clear is that Colombia has been pursuing a military solution to its own internal problem, ... drawing in Ecuador and Venezuela."

Chavez has increasingly revealed his sympathies for the FARC, and in January asked that it be struck from lists of terrorist groups internationally.

The leftist FARC has been fighting Colombia's government for more than four decades, and funds itself largely through the cocaine trade and kidnaps for ransom and political ends.

Chavez said that with U.S. support, Colombian troops "invaded Ecuador, flagrantly violating Ecuador's sovereignty."

U.S Embassy spokeswoman Suzanne Hall, in Bogota, declined comment on the possibility of U.S. involvement, saying it was a Colombian government operation.

In Texas, U.S. National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said of Chavez's latest moves: "This is an odd reaction by Venezuela to Colombia's efforts against the FARC, a terrorist organization that continues to hold Colombians, Americans and others hostage."

How exactly Reyes was killed was not immediately clear.

Colombia's defense minister, Juan Manuel Santos, said Colombian commandos, tracking Reyes through an informant, first bombed a camp on the Colombian side of the Ecuadorean border. He said the troops came under fire from across the border in Ecuador and encountered Reyes' body when they overran that camp.

Colombia and Venezuela have been locked in a diplomatic crisis since Uribe sought in November to halt Chavez's efforts to mediate a prisoner swap. The FARC has since freed six hostages to delegates of Chavez, including four released last week.

The FARC has demanded that a safe zone be created in Colombia to negotiate a swap of some 40 high-value captives, including former presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt and three U.S. defense contractors, for hundreds of imprisoned guerrillas.

Thinking about it, this has been a no-brainer. Chavez is the classic school yard bully. He has to use brute strength, fear, and intimidation in order to get his way. He has to 'buy' friends, i.e. giving the poor people money, new facilities (without utilities), AK47's..... But the World has seen how he has raped Venezuela of all forms of freedom and free enterprise. One of Chavez's priorities since getting into office is building up a military by going on a spending spree. He's betting on the military to protect his personal empire and not Venezuela. He's been overt in garnering other socialist in the region..birds of a feather....to be his 'buddies'. He shows of in public whenever he can, being very blusterous in his manners, words, and actions. So to start a war in South America has not been hard for anyone to imagine. He's a bully that is going to take Venezuela, Ecuador, and maybe a large portion of South American straight into a decade of violence as he pulls his imitation of Benito Mussolini...whom is a very fair comparison if you look at the two of them.

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